Then we have this lovely little tale:
A 15-year-old boy has been locked up for 15 years for murdering a father of three who was stabbed to death on his doorstep after confronting a gang who verbally abused his daughter.
The teenage killer, who cannot be named for legal reasons, was ‘out of control’ when he murdered stonemason Jamie Markham, 45, after spending days shouting and swearing outside the victim’s home in Chingford.
He had been caught in school with a knife when he was 12 and Mr Markham believed the boy, then 14, and his friends had broken into the shed at the back of his flat in Old Church Road, where he kept his tools.
His killer was well known as a trouble-maker and had wrecked the local branch of Morrisons by hurling red wine and eggs down the aisles. He was caught on video spitting in his mother’s face and breached a criminal behaviour order five times by being in the area where he killed Mr Markham. He has appeared in court 12 times and been convicted for 22 different offences since June 2020, when he was 13. His previous convictions include battery, criminal damage, using threatening, abusive words and behaviour, sending threatening messages and theft.
I have a simple solution for this kind of thing.
The evil little shit should be hanged in public (not hidden away in some prison), and the gallows should be set up right in the area where he and his little friends terrorized the residents. The body should be left dangling for a week.
That would take care of his worthless ass, and it might make his gangster buddies think twice about perpetrating similar shit in future. (And if it doesn’t, repeat the process until they all get the message, or they’re all dead. Either outcome is acceptable.)
None of that will happen, of course, so the Reign of Terror will continue.
Agreed, with the addition that the criminal’s “friends” shall be handcuffed to bollards within 10 feet of the hanging corpus delecti, for the duration of the hang, so they get to experience, in part, their future if they don’t mend their ways. For them, bread and water only and no shelter from the elements. Just cold, stark reality.
Further, since the wife-mother and daughter have now lost the benefit of their husband-father the piece of trash must be forced to labor to pay restitution to the survivors. How much? Well, some might say you can’t put a price on a human life but insurance companies have been doing so for centuries. If the criminal must do 15 years in the shitcan then perhaps 15 years worth of restitution would be warranted. Or a flat sum.
Where would the money come from? Local taxpayers? The little shit won’t have the money.
Perhaps monetizing his blood, bone and organs? SOMETHING useful should come from this sack of shite.
It should of course be entirely up to him. A Kidney, a Lung, some Skin, some Bone Marrow, a Cornea or two; whenever the debt is repaid he can be released.
The IRS has no problem getting blood out of a turnip. Given the choice, most people will choose food and water over labor every time.
Worst of all, this is local news for me, I live maybe 3-4 miles from where all this went on.
It seems that the British police have lost all power to deal with anti-social behaviour.
Only if the victims are white do they have no power…
If the perps are white, or if the behaviour involves “islamophobia” or criticism of the ruling elite all gloves come off and “hate crime incident” charges added for good measure.
And don’t even think about posting something on facebook or twitter that’s in any way critical of “minorities” or the ruling elite of an armed posse will be sent to your domicile to “check your thoughts” and take you in for a “non-crime hate incident”.
So the lesson learned here is, if you confront a local shithead who has been harassing your daughter, have a pistol in your hand. I once was in a semi-similar situation, but when shithead saw me/pistol they turned around and ran – and he stopped harassing my daughter after that.
Ah, never mind. Brit land, no pistol, so lesson learned is don’t live there.
Thankfully, a distant ancestor made that decision some time back and left The Emerald Isle for America.
And another lesson that follows from the first, When people learn that important lesson and act upon it, do not complain about the “Brain Drain.”
This lesson is more directed at the people who seize the power to regulate and rule others.
I have been thinking with all the anti-social behavior around the world of late, nations should have a group of “watchers”. Maybe even AI based. Id those who need to be culled from society at large. Then simply send around the trucks and pick them up. Disposal via any means you want. Problem solved early on.
“A 15-year-old boy has been locked up for 15 years”
Did they arrest him at birth? Or rather, perhaps, he WILL BE locked up for 15 years? I’m kind of surprised that sentence didn’t throw you for a loop.
I agree fully with hanging people like that.
I’m less enthusiastic about making a public spectacle of it.
And while I think it would reduce violent crime somewhat, I doubt that it would have much effect on this kind of murder.
The first and third points go together here.
An execution, generally, is an admission of failure by society and the state. It is when our institutions–family, schools, churches (if involved), police–failed to notice or acknowledge the monster developing in their midst, and failed to act on that.
Sometimes (for example the Las Vegas shooter) there are no signs that would indicate things developing that way. But generally those signs are there.
I don’t think we should make a public spectacle out of it because of my perception of how these things “went down” in the past–that they weren’t solemn events where society and the state admitted that they had failed, they were bread and circuses.
Having his fellow troublemakers in attendance? Yeah, no problems. But beyond them and the legally required witnesses, let’s not make it a carnival.
But that 15 year old didn’t get out of bed that morning with the thought that he would kill someone. He just set out to have a bit of fun and get his rage at the world on.
He, like many of these “people” is *at least* a sociopath. When we notice it early enough, or in a well structured and healthy family, sociopaths can grow up to be good and useful members of society. But if you don’t catch them in time there’s not a fookin’ thing you can do to adjust them. They will always prey on the people around them, violently or otherwise.
And many of them don’t have the sort of “time preference” and control of their drives to prevent them from lashing out violently. So the only way to keep other people safe is to keep them behind bars, or to kill them.
There are whole classes of people who will commit crimes, and be locked up, who will learn the right lesson from their experiences, and not do it again. People like this bloke aren’t them, and when you mix the violent sociopaths and the non-sociopaths together, it makes the lessons that the non-sociopaths learn from their jail time the wrong lessons.
So kill them.
But know that there’s always going to be more like them.
I realize I pre-date the Pleistocene Era, but in your old NOR blog Kim, you had a link to one P.C. Copperfield who warned of this very thing, and that it would get worse. That was 20 years ago if memory serves (and it doesn’t always).
Stuart quit the Brit Police and emigrated. He now lives and works in Edmonton.
Before you condemn this young man to death, remember the actor Danny Trejo, once a very similar young man. You might also recall the convicted murderer who confronted the terrorist at Fishmongers Hall.
I truly hope that this young man reforms and repents of his crimes. But if he doesn’t then he should stay locked up, for life if need be.
Danny Trejo was a bank robber, not a murderer.
The Fish Market guy did ONE good thing.
Given that the amoral little shit under discussion has been a social pestilence for most of his life to date, and is now a cold-blooded psychopathic murderer, there’s little chance he’ll ever repent, let alone reform. Kill him.
And here we have this happening in a place people come to for enjoyment…..
https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/courts/suspect-in-strip-stabbing-charged-with-murder-attempted-murder-2655590/
While I mostly agree with you, Kim, the evidence suggests that public hangings just provided crowds for other criminals to ply their trade.
Hanging a pickpocket, in fact, became a place for pickpockets to gather…