…shotguns, that is.
I must confess that in this here Gun Thing, it’s the firearms type of which I claim little expertise. I’ve owned a couple, of course — as with most firearms types of the brass cartridge persuasion — both Brownings, the first being the fabled A5 Sweet Sixteen:
…which I have to say, in all honesty, I didn’t enjoy shooting. Mine was an older version which didn’t have the recoil pad like the one above; no, it was thinner and harder, and the Sixteen’s sharp recoil always beat the hell out of my shoulder. It didn’t help that the 16ga ammo was kinda spendy, too — as Mr. Free Market, who knows more about shotguns than I could gather in three lifetimes, has often stated: “All the unpleasantness of a twelve, with none of the advantages of the twenty.”
I far preferred shooting my other Browning semi-auto, the 20-gauge Gold Hunter:
I never regretted getting rid of the Sweet Sixteen, but I really regret losing the Gold Hunter in that Tragic Boating Accident On The Brazos — and since Browning has stopped making the Hunter line, those 20ga. Gold Hunters (predictably) are now scarce and if in decent shape, somewhat expensive, for a shotgun that is.
All this came to mind when some time ago I received a communication from some gun store about their reduced prices on Beretta semi-auto shotguns — no, I can’t remember which store and what the prices were, sorry — but I do recall which shotguns they were talking about: the A300 line, and specifically which sub-variants. They are two shotguns with diametrically-opposed functions. First, the A300 Ultima “Sporting” 20ga:
I have to say, I like the looks of this one (despite the camo finish — yeah, I know, ducks and turkeys and what have you), but I have an abiding respect for Beretta and its various products so I bet this lovely thing is a dream to shoot. Just get rid of the camo finish — oh, wait, here’s one I’d grab onto in a heartbeat:
I don’t care what you say, that is just plain yummy. Unfortunately, like most Beretta products, these 30″-barreled beauties cost more than I want to spend — over a grand for a semi-auto shotgun? Pass.
Not so yummy was the other Beretta piece in that email, the Ultima “Patrol”:
Okay, okay I know: with that shorty lil’ 19″ barrel, it’s not a sporter. It’s designed for the Swatties and Tactical Home Defense crowd, so that 7+1 ammo capacity is a sine qua non requirement. Whenever someone describes a gun as a “tool” — a topic for another time — then this is the kind of gun that jumps to mind. Look, it’s going to work, and well, and that’s its purpose. Fine. (Frankly, I’d rather go with a pump action, but that too is a topic for another time.) But as a gun I’d want in my gun safe? Pass.
Going back the the semi-auto part, I recall reading about John Moses Browning’s design for the A5, and how it’s been improved over time so the recoil isn’t as intimidating. As I said, I don’t know much about semi-auto shotgun designs (compared to handgun- and rifle designs, anyway), so I’m not going to talk about them and reveal my ignorance thereof. I have no idea about whether the Remington 11-87 is a better design or whether it’s just copied from Browning’s… whatever.
I just know that if I were to have a desire for a semi-auto shotgun, it would invariably tend towards the blued steel-and-walnut variety. But that’s pretty much true of my preferences for any gun, and you all know that about me anyway.
I do indeed wish I had a 12 ga autoloader in my stable.
2025 may be the year I change that “wish” to a “have”.
I find a box mag rather fetching.
(quick reloading)
I had a friend sell me an sporterized 03A3, which I never got around to shooting. He wanted it back so he traded me a Remington 1100, with a collection of chokes. Best deal ever since I wasn’t hunting deer all that much but went for sporting clays and skeet once a month or so.
It’s a sweet gun.
I went on a charity clays shoot last year where it performed well, considering the crappy ammo they gave us to shoot. Jammed twice. Friend of mine with a new Browning suffered mightily. Had issues cycling the second round.
Funny story – my son shot in our foursome, and clobbered everyone with a cheap 870 I gave him. I think I paid $190 at sports authority for the thing. I was out shooting it with a friend (who had a beautiful Beretta over/under. We stunk up the course that day. As we were walking back, I said “man, I sucked”. He said at least I sucked with a $200 pump, he was sucking with a $1700 Beretta.
Bought my Benelli Super 90 M1 back around 1995. Said purchase being inspired by reading Massad Ayoob’s write up of the 1986 FBI Miami shootout, specifically the account of agent Mireles running his pump shotgun with one hand while seated.
We live in a cul-de-sac. In the interest of overwhelming fire power up close, but less so at distance, my load for the M1 is Fasteel with #2 steel shot.
Back when I worked retail firearms (at Huntington’s in Oroville, CA) we had in stock, IIRC, a Benelli Montefeltro Ultra Light in 28 GA. Ye gods, Harry Potter’s wand was likely heavier. My lust for it was somewhat tempered by the price (even back then) of 28 GA ammo. Had it been in the cards, I would have gone with the 20 GA.
I have a hankering for a Mossberg 940 SPX with a Holosun 407K shake-awake sight.
After suffering a Posterior Vitreous Detachment (PVD) last October, in my shooting eye, it appears my shooting days are drawing to a close. It won’t go away and my mind, being what it is, refuses to ignore it. And the pisser is, I only see it when I aim, and it blocks and/or disrupts my sight picture. More a problem with handguns than long guns, but a problem nonetheless.
I was off-loading most of my non-home defense guns anyway. I don’t go to the long gun range anymore, I quit hunting 5 years ago, and both shoulders need reconstructive surgery, which I am loathe to have.
The last shotty to go will be my FN SLP, because I consider that a home defense mainstay, but it will eventually go, hopefully passed to my deserving nephew on the occasion of my last breath.
Heresy! The 16 is perfection – better performance than the 20 without the punishment of a 12 and you get to act snooty about it. I will confess I never tried it in the A5…
My knowledge of shotguns is lacking. My first shotgun was a Mossberg 835 that has a 3-1/2″ chamber. I believe that was designed with Federal designing the ammunition in order to give 10gauge performance to a 12gauge. I figured this would be versatile for geese, turkey, other birds and deer.
the second Shotgun I picked up was a Browning Citori 525 in 12 gauge. It’s great for clay sports. I don’t know if I would take that out in the field to get dinged and scratched.
My wife bought a Beretta A400 in 20gauge that she likes. It’s light and great for clay sports.
If I had to do it over again, I’d have probably gone with a 20gauge because as I get older, I don’t need to get battered by a 12gauge. The clay loads for 12gauge aren’t that bad though.