…to the Dark Side.
The post is funny, the comments (and Kenny’s responses) funnier still. I just never thought I’d see the day.
Oh well, the world continues to turn, even though the sun shines just a little bit dimmer.
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Hahahaha, thank you for that wonderful start to my morning. Terrific write up (he’s almost as good as you!), and I read all the comments, which are hilarious.
Two thoughts I have after having bought and sold several Glocks. They’ve always disappointed me (which is why the sales, have had 4 at one time, now down to 2). But they are very good tools. Like if you’re in the market for a good variable speed drill, buy a DeWalt or Milwaukee. Buy once cry once.
But the tool aspect of them is why I could never warm up to it. It’s like you never take your DeWalt Drill out to admire it if you’re not drilling holes or driving screws. When I open one of my gun safes to put papers away, like my tax return recently, I’ll pull out a 1911, or my Ruger GP100, or one of my son’s Maks or a CZ. I never, and I mean never, pick up the Glock. Probably have not handled it in a year. It just doesn’t hold any fascination for me.
I disagree on the sights, however. If you are going to carry one rather than only use it as a range gun, get some Ken Hackathorn sights. They’re not expensive. Thank me later. And I put an aftermarket trigger in my G45 simply because I’m a stupid tinkerer. But as a bedside gun? I think it would be just about ideal.
I did make the move to the Dark Side on the Europellet, though. I caved after Larry Vickers caved, and with the wonderful Hornady Critical Duty round I carry, nobody will convince me it’s not as deadly as the .45. That round that is, you have to be careful about picking carry ammo.
But I went the 2011 route. Once you get used to a 1911 trigger, I don’t know how anyone could pretty much permanently move to a Glock. You’ll never be really happy with it, just varying degrees of less unhappiness. Luckily I had a Nighthawk GRP Recon in the safe I bought me for my 50th birthday present to myself, and I never shot it. Probably only 250 rounds through it in over 15 years, I didn’t want to scratch it. Stupid, I don’t do safe queens I shoot everything. Well before that Nighthawk.
So after handling it for the umpteenth time (see above about moving papers in the safe) I finally said this is stupid sell the damn thing. Thank the Good Lord someone on the PA gun forum I’m on asked if I’d trade it for a Wilson Combat SFX9. After looking it up, I did the trade, came with 11 magazines (guy was a competitor).
THAT is a wonderful carry gun. Everything you like in a 1911 including the wonderful trigger, an all metal gun, but in 9mm. Other than the snubby my two carry guns now are the SFX9 and my trusty, highly-modified Kimber CDP Compact in .45. Much as I do respect them, I simply can’t imagine myself using a Glock for daily carry.
Thanks for that link, though. Great start to my day!!
I don’t care for 1911’s. Great range guns. Shot a ton of them when I worked in the gun biz. Most finicky guns ever. Lots of broken slide stops. Safety plungers. Mag catches. Smooth shooting. Nice triggers. Hated the safety. Ugh
9MM 1911 models (I know some will say that’s like a 4 cylinder mustang) are smooth are butter. I also liked the 5 inch models way better than the 3 in models. Never saw a 3 inch that wasn’t big time ammo sensitive.
Now , Striker fired guns (Glock) won’t feel the same as any 1911. But some are better than others. I don’t mind a Glock trigger. But I like the trigger on my XDS better than the Glock. 7 pounds a little heavy. But it’s a carry gun. Very crisp. Nice.
GP100 is my fav revolver ever. 4 in stainless 357. Sweet trigger That would be the last gun id ever sell.
I am saving up for one in 10MM GP100. That gun looks so sweet.
Overall I like striker fired semis and double action revolvers.
But one thing.. I do like the ruger single six 22 LR and WMR (mag) convertible.
When you buy a Glock now, does it come with tuck tape?
In general, if the gun shoots right, I’m NOT against it.
Been actively searching for a Glock 17 Gen 1 for sometime and they are elusive.
My best friend is heavily addicted to Glocks and has about 20 of them and his EDC is a 17 that he carries right up front under the belt, with a red dot.
I’ve fired his Glocks a few times and I like em but that whole idea of it being hot all the time is a little unnerving. I guess I’m used to the “safety” of my Beretta 92FS that has been my mainstay for almost 25 years. I’ll have a 17 eventually but I’m gonna hafta keep being patient.
Ghost,
I bought a used 17 (Gen 1) about 25 years ago. I can’t speak to its past but I do know that it was fired very rarely during my ownership. If I decide to let it go, I’ll give you a shout.
Raven – Thanks! I got cash on hand!
Ghost,
“Been actively searching for a Glock 17 Gen 1 for sometime and they are elusive.”
Are you looking for an ANTIQUE Glock 17 for the nostalgia?
Or are you looking for the style (no finger grooves, no rail on the dust cover etc)
If you are just looking for the style – Glock remade the Gen 1
Search for Generation 1 Glock remake.
Side note – I am not able to post links in comments. When I include a link – the posting just doesn’t post. Any ideas on that one?
I’ve been shooting 1911’s for about 55 years now, of many different types and brands and of every conceivable size including a Para 14, all in .45 ACP. Current carry is a Sig C3.
I actually tried a Glock for a short period of time after one of my carry permit instructors did a double-take when I drew my Springfield Micro-Compact (Officer’s size) at the range for the shooting qualification. His comment was, “Can’t you find something a little more current than that?”, to which my reply was to ace the qualification with a perfect score and then ask, “Why would I change?”
I got an incredible deal on a Glock 30S which is their compact .45, 10-round, with a narrow slide. I ended up selling it because of two major reasons:
Number 1: The Glock trigger from hell. Crunchy, creepy, and heavy, with a terrible reset.
Number 2: The major advantage of the Glock over a 1911 was supposed to be the increase in magazine capacity, going from 7 (in my Officer’s size) to 10. The only problem was then I simply could not load more than 7 rounds into the damned magazines without using the stupid little mag-loader that was included with the pistol. Even that was a pain in the butt, and utterly impossible to do quickly.
Add to those things the bad grip angle and lousy ergonomics (at least for me) and it added up to a pistol I disliked. I cannot fault how it actually worked (went “bang” every time) or its accuracy (very good for a compact .45), but that wasn’t enough to compensate for being a brick in my hand. I expect all of my firearms to work and be reasonably accurate (with the exception of AK’s or SKS’s) but it’s also necessary that they fit me. Glock’s just don’t. I understand that they are the Tupperware of the pistol universe, and I don’t sneer at people who like them (the fan-bois get a little irritating) but they ain’t for me.
First comment: “Did you buy some Crocs to wear while shooting it?”
ROFLMAO.
My position on Glocks hasn’t changed in decades: I prefer different ergonomics. “Perfection” is an arrogant claim, given the gun’s many shortcomings. What is a well justified claim is that Gaston & co have figured out how to reliably produce a supremely reliable combat pistol at a moderate price point, which is a significant industrial achievement in its own right.
To me Glocks look like their original design concept was made out of Lego bricks.
Glocks are good guns. For polymer framed guns I prefer Springfield a little more but Glocks are damn good.
I really like the XDS 9. I would love a hellcat but I’ve never had any issues with my XDS so why change. If I was buying now I’d get a hellcat
To Ghost above saying the gun is hot all the time with no safety, um , revolvers?
Revolvers that are loaded are hot all the time with no safety.
And no nonsense about trigger pull weight. While I totally agree it is not smart to carry a modified 2 pound competition trigger, bottom line is If you are unsafe with a 10 pound trigger you are unsafe with a 6 pound trigger. DA revolvers usually have around 10 pound or more trigger and a stock Glock is around 6 or so.
One polymer gun I hate is sig. p320 and p365 are both pieces of fucking shit. If you want an sig get a classic line. P229 p220 p226. Sigs new stuff is hot garbage.
Springfield armory and Glock are the best.
Smith and Wesson m&p are decent too. No major issues other than a so so trigger.
I believe there are four polymer framed pistols in the collection right now. S&W M&P x2, a S&W Shield and a Sig P320. I prefer the P320.
The all metal pistols outnumber the plastic fantastics. I tried some Glocks at my club’s Glock Day last summer. I just couldn’t get used to their triggers.
But if it goes bang and you enjoy it then have a ball!