Gratuitous Gun Pic: Ruger Talo Carryhawk (.45 LC/.45 ACP)

While seeking to assuage my Lockdown Blues a couple days ago, I stumbled on this little piece at Collectors:

Hmmm… a down-sized carry revolver in .45 Colt/ACP;  what could be bad about it.?

Leaving aside the single-action issue (not an optimal choice for self-defense, really), what’s wrong with this piece is the bird’s-head grip.

Maybe it’s just me, but I find revolvers thus gripped to be almost uncontrollable:  the damn thing turns in my hand not just up-and-down (which is a good thing with the bird’s head as it helps handle recoil) but side-to-side as well, which is a huge problem.  I once had a pretty little Ruger Bearcat revolver in .22 LR, like this one:

…and after a couple years I sold it to someone who wanted just that kind of revolver.

Maybe it just was my hand size, I dunno;  but I just had no fun shooting it.  And that was a .22 LR revolver:  what, I wonder, will it be like trying to control that grip in a meatier chambering like the .45?  I’ll probably never own this type of gun again, but I’m willing to be proved wrong.

Your thoughts in Comments.

Cooped Up

A Longtime Friend writes and tells me of his terminal boredom with this lockdown bullshit, made worse by a day’s rain.  So he decides to clean some of his shotguns:

My only comment is that there are WAY too many over-and-unders…

Because, as any fule kno, a proper shotgun’s barrels should be side by side like a man and his dog, and not over and under like a man and his mistress.

(For a closer look at this magnificent Piotti shotgun, go here.)

Dept. Of Righteous Shootings

Try not to giggle like a schoolgirl when you read this report:

An intrusion suspect in Fredericksburg, Texas, was shot dead by a homeowner’s fiancee Saturday morning after he allegedly choked the homeowner unconscious.

I won’t spoil the fun by adding the final touch.  Go and read it.

My only question is:  what’s with this “intrusion suspect” bullshit?  Little fucker broke into the house, attacked the man and then got shot dead.  It’s all as clear as daylight:  there’s nothing “suspect” or (my favorite) “alleged” about this.

Anyway, it’s all academic.  One less choirboy for us to worry about here in Texas.

Once Again, With Feeling

In talking about old cartridges yesterday, I made brief reference to an article I wrote many years ago.  How old can be seen by its date, and here’s the thing, in its entirety.


Nothing Good Since 1955

February 26, 2003
10:00 AM CDT

I was asked the other day what I have against certain cartridges, specifically the .40 Smith & Wesson and the .357 SIG for handguns, and the plethora of new rifle cartridges (Ultra Mags, Short Mags and so on).

Simple answer: I have nothing against them.  Our culture and economy flourish because we insist on choice.  I refuse to get into a discussion of “need” for choices, because when you talk about “need”, the unanswerable question is, ”Who decides what you need, and when?”  It’s unanswerable, because no one should decide what we need — the market decides what stays and what goes, and we make our choices as part of the “market”.

However, one of the problems we face is that in the relentless pursuit of choice, some excellent options may get lost, just because they’re old and no longer worthy of production.

A while back, I read an article written by Ross Seyfried, entitled “Cartridges We Can Live Without”.  Now I know that writers seldom pick their own topics — they’re usually assigned them by editors — but this article prompted me to write a seething letter to the editor of the magazine, the subject of my letter being “Gun Writers We Can Do Without”.  (Unsurprisingly, they declined to publish it, the craven wussies.)

What raised my ire on this specific occasion was Seyfried’s assertion that the venerable 7x57mm (“7mm Mauser”) cartridge was passé, being no longer on a par with some of the new “wonder” cartridges.

Well, excuse me.  Considering that the late Great White Hunter Walter “Karamojo” Bell used to hunt elephant with the 7×57, it’s a little silly to think that the slow-moving, long bullet won’t do pretty much anything you ask of it.  I once went hunting with an old surplus Mauser in 7x57mm, and the professional hunter (PH) nearly refused to take me out with such an “underpowered” rifle.  One dead eland later, killed with a single shot, changed his mind.  (The eland typically weighs well over half a ton.)

Now I know that new products are a good thing.  Research and development make for improvement, on just about anything.  But there is an implicit danger in this, that being that the “tried-and-true” can sometimes be forced out simply because of economics.  Indeed, were it not for the fact that the European shooting market still enjoys the 7×57, I doubt very much whether any U.S. company would still make the old girl today.  The fact remains, though, that the 7×57, while admittedly inefficient by today’s cartridge standards, still has many attributes (low recoil, astounding penetration) which endear it to many shooters, myself included.

The problem with new cartridges is that you need new rifles to shoot them with — and over the past few years I think that most new cartridge development has been done to sell new rifles, rather than to improve a similar cartridge’s shortcomings.  And the market being what it is, a number of fine old cartridges have been simply lost, because they weren’t popular enough.  In the cold light of capitalism, this is a good thing. In the gun world, well, I’m not so sure.

Because when a cartridge is no longer made, unless you learn to handload your own, your rifle becomes an expensive club, or mantelpiece ornament.  And that just plain sucks.  If the newer cartridges were that much better than the ones they’d replaced, that would be one thing.  But, since 1950, most newer cartridges are only marginally better than some they’ve “replaced.”

Here’s a short list of cartridges developed since the advent of the metallic cartridge, with their dates of introduction. And please don’t write to me and ask me how come I left off your favorite .278-08 Ackley Improved—the list is indicative, not comprehensive or definitive. (* = rare and can be difficult to find these days, bold = Kim’s favorites)

Rifle Cartridges:

.45-70 Government: 1873
.32-20 Win: 1882
8mm Lebel: 1886
.22 Long Rifle: 1887
.303 British: 1888
8x50Rmm Mannlicher: 1888
7.5x55mm Swiss: 1889
7.62x54Rmm Russian: 1891
7x57mm Mauser: 1892
.30-40 Krag: 1892
6.5x55mm Swedish Mauser: 1894
.30-30 WCF: 1895

And here’s a partial list of the military cartridges in the above- and below lists:

Actually, I could argue that a rifleman would do just fine with cartridges developed before 1900 (unless hunting Cape buffalo or elephant, perhaps), but let’s be charitable and give the first half of the 20th century its due:

.32 Win Special: 1902
8x57mm Mauser: 1905
6.5x50mm Arisaka: 1905
.30-06 Springfield: 1906
.35 Remington: 1906*
.470 Nitro Express: 1907*
.404 Jeffery: 1909*
.35 Whelen: 1910 (?)
.416 Rigby: 1911
.375 H&H Magnum: 1912
.250 Savage: 1915*
.300 Savage: 1920*
.25-06 Remington: 1920
.50 Browning: 1923
.270 Win: 1925
.300 H&H Magnum: 1925*
.22 Hornet: 1930
.257 Roberts: 1934*
.220 Swift: 1935
.22-250: 1937 (as a wildcat; later, as a production item, in 1965)
.270 Weatherby Mag: 1943
7.62x39mm Russian: 1943 (as a combat round only)
.257 Weatherby Mag: 1944
.284 Weatherby Mag: 1944*
.300 Weatherby Mag: 1948
.222 Rem: 1950
.308 Winchester: 1952 (aka. 7.62x51mm NATO)
.243 Win: 1955

That’s it: two world wars, countless other conflicts, and millions of game animals would all attest to the power and value of those cartridges.

All other rifle cartridges made since 1955 have been attempts to gild the lily, with the possible  exception of the following:

.458 Winchester Magnum: 1956
.223 Rem: 1957
.338 Winchester Magnum: 1958
.22 Win Magnum: 1959
7mm Remington Magnum: 1962
.300 Winchester Magnum: 1963
7mm-08 Remington: 1980

There have been dozens of others introduced, but truthfully, the only ones really worth the trouble are the ones listed.  I’ve left off the “experimental” cartridges like those of John Lazzeroni, Rick Jamison, Layne Simpson and J.D. Jones, because they have a limited following (so far).  Here are a few pics, comparing the relative size of various cartridges, by category:



 

The fact that the U.S. Armed Forces’ current main battle rifle is chambered in .223 (5.56mm) doesn’t mean anything.  The fine gun writer Chuck Hawks makes a powerful case that the .243 (6mm) would be a better compromise between portability and knockdown power than the .223 varmint round (and let’s face it, military high command decisions have a pretty spotty track record on this topic anyway).  Even the 7mm-08 was just an attempt to tame the recoil of the .308, and the venerable 7x57mm fills that slot more than adequately, as would the .300 Savage, which, lamentably, has almost disappeared.

I consider the latest flock of “Short Magnum” and “Ultra Magnum” rifle cartridges to be essentially marketing ploys, whose sole purpose is to drive new-gun sales.  Not one of them really brings anything new to the party, the writings of the manufacturers’ pimps (aka. gun magazine writers) notwithstanding.

It’s even worse for handguns. With the exception of the .44 Magnum, which was essentially an improvement of the .44 Special cartridge for handgun hunting purposes, we could have ended all handgun cartridge development in 1940.  The improvement of bullet and propellant performance, of course, is another thing — improved bullet design has turned a marginal cartridge like the .380 ACP, for example, into an acceptable self-defense one.

Handgun Cartridges:

.45 Colt: 1873
.38 Long Colt: 1892*
.30 Mauser: 1893*
.32 ACP (7.65mm Browning): 1899
9x19mm Parabellum: 1902
.38 Special: 1902
.45 ACP: 1905
.44 Special: 1907
.25 ACP: 1908
.380 ACP: 1912
.38 Super: 1929
7.62x25mm Tokarev: 1930
.357 S&W Magnum: 1935

That’s just about all you’d ever need, right there, for almost any handgun purpose, especially if you add the .22 LR to the list as a dual-purpose round. The only other major handgun cartridges worthy of mention since 1950 have been:

.44 Remington Magnum: 1955
.454 Casull: 1957
.41 Rem Magnum: 1964
10mm Auto: 1983
.32 H&R Magnum: 1984
.40 S&W: 1989
.357 SIG: 1998
.480 Ruger: 2001
.500 S&W Mag: 2002

…and I’m not so sure about the last half-dozen, either.  As Jeff Cooper has put it (talking about the .40 S&W), they are a solution to a non-existent problem, or the answer to an unasked question.  Once again, some comparative pics:

 

 

 

 

 

Here’s the critical conclusion to be drawn from all this:  it seems quite clear that in the confines of physics, cartridges have about topped out in terms of capability.  In other words, we’ve climbed the steep curve of performance improvement, and are now on the flat slope of diminishing returns.

Bullet design and development of propellant have the only real chance of making serious improvements to cartridge efficiency, but it’s clear that if the gun business is going to grow, the change will have to come from a different kind of gun altogether, or a different kind of bullet.

In the meantime, leave my precious 7x57mm alone.

And this is the point.  While I’m all for cartridge development, it’s clear that the continuing drive to improve gun sales by new cartridge introduction (for that is what it has become) may result in many fine old cartridges losing favor and being discontinued — meaning that at some point in the future, if you want to keep your 8mm Mauser rifle in ammo, you’ll have to reload them yourself.

Or maybe I’m just a fuddy-duddy who should been alive in about 1910. [loud chorus of “Yes, you are, you old fart” in the background]


Update:  since this was written, I think the only “new” rifle cartridge that has any chance of longevity is the 6.5mm Creedmoor — and that longevity will depend on whether the .dotmil adopts it as their main battle rifle cartridge.

Later next week I’ll post a list of my favorite rifles in all the bold chamberings above.

Cartridge Thoughts

There’s been quite a bit of discussion in Comments and in my Inbox to various posts recently about rifles and chamberings.  Here’s an example, from Longtime Buddy and Reader Termite:

What are your thoughts on the ubiquitous 1894 30-30? Either Winchester or Marlin; I like the Marlin because you can more easily mount a scope or red dot. Ammo is EVERYWHERE, it is easy to reload, and in the right hands, a 200 yd rifle. Plus, you can usually pick up a decent one for somewhere around $400 – $500, maybe less if you find someone in dire need of cash.
Added bonus: it isn’t an E.B.R.

I’ve often  recommended the 1894 .30-30 as a “do it all” or even “essential” rifle — see here for an example — so all the above can be taken as read with no argument from me.  If you have young eyes, then the iron sights are fine, and if not, the addition of a 1.5-5x scope will fill the bill admirably.

Which brings me on to the main topic of this post:  chambering choices.

Anyone who has spent more than ten minutes on this website will know that if faced with a choice between “traditional” vs. “modern” — on just about everything — I will always go traditional.  When it comes to cartridges, this is even more true.  Many years ago, I wrote a piece which maintained that with only a couple of exceptions, no centerfire rifle cartridges brought to market since 1955 were any better than the offerings on the market prior to that date.  In fact, apart from the 7mm Rem Mag and maybe the 6.5 Creedmoor (jury still out on that one, although I’m told by an insider that the Brit SpecFor guys are just lapping it up), it’s hard for me to think of a “modern” cartridge which, if replaced with an older equivalent, would be sorely missed.

As for the .30-30… sheesh, it’s probably killed more deer in the U.S. than any other cartridge, and in heavily-forested places like Pennsylvania and Maine, likely more than twice as many than any other three  cartridges combined.  And I think that if Bubba’s Gun ‘N Bait Shop doesn’t  have any .30-30 on their shelves, they’re probably breaking a state law, in most states anyway, and it would be wise to steer clear of them.

As a last-ditch gun, I don’t think the 1894 / 336-style lever rifle (of any brand) would be a bad choice.  Here’s a Winchester 1894, made in 1948:

At Collectors, it’s going for $750 (because of the pre-1964 manufacture date).  Later models from other gun makers can be had for around $400, like this Marlin 336 (1963):

…and this price point puts them squarely with the older Mausers I spoke of earlier — the only difference being that these  old girls aren’t pig-ugly.

Damn, I love living in America — where the argument rages not over whether  you can own a gun, but which choice you’re going to make for any specific purpose.  Even, like now, for no specific purpose at all.

Not Grasshoppers

From Shooting Times:

Between private conversations with firearm, ammunition and optic manufacturers over the past two weeks, along with public information disseminated by major gunmakers, I am fairly certain a major disruption in the supply chain for those products and likely many more is coming, and coming soon.

Read the whole thing.

And this, my children (he explained for the thousandth time), is why we gun owners need to have not only a plentiful supply of ammo, but also of guns.

Ant and Grasshopper story (executive summary):  buy and lay in stocks during Times Of Plenty, so that when the Lean Times come busting in through the front door, you don’t have to beg for anything from anyone.

This is as true (or more so) for guns as it is for any other household product.